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Are you my mother pretending to be Jon? Seriously, thank you for the kind words. I’ve been stewing on this column for a while. 2012 in particular. The rhetoric between Obama and Romney camps was rough. Not nasty per se but certainly rough. And yet it feels quaint now . The 2012 election was the one that now feels the most outlier ish?

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Chuck, this was one of the more interesting pieces I’ve read from you because it wasn’t really about campaign rhetoric—it was about political evolution. Your central thesis, that yesterday’s insults often become tomorrow’s accepted identities, is a compelling lens through which to view the last two decades.

What struck me most was your use of McCain as the hinge between two eras. The contrast between his rejection of the “Obama is an Arab” comment and the politics that followed illustrates how party leaders once saw policing their own coalition as part of the job. I also thought your comparison of trade, foreign policy, and immigration showed that this phenomenon isn’t confined to one party. In several cases, today’s orthodoxies would have been politically unrecognizable to the same parties in 2008.

The section on America’s two-party system becoming “containers” for increasingly incompatible factions was particularly thought-provoking. Whether or not one agrees with your proposed reforms, that diagnosis helps explain why internal party battles have become so consequential. It was a nuanced, historically grounded piece that encourages readers to think beyond today’s headlines.

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